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but after that, all bets are off. >> say we do get resolution of the fiscal cliff issue before the end of the year. isn't that going to probably give a bit of a fill to markets all around? >> should be a bullish or supportive development, but i think it will probably rans late more into the u.s. indices. i think we've seen quite a bit of the movement already. there was a comment the other day about relative under performance on the s&p and dow. s&p 4% or 5% relative to where it was. i don't really see it being clear cut. i think you probably stay long equities, probably still pick up the u.s. indices on short term weakness, but you don't hang around for too long. >> a couple individual stocks? >> yeah, bg has a vision of the market in terms of we could be going lower or up, but two stocks which have had sharp down move. bg it was a news driven event. but the big thing with bg is we have a long term structural up trend. so looking at that time more from a chart driven perspective. but if you look at the chart within year, ten year, three year time frame, around 1040, 1050 area is pretty
but after that, all bets are off. >> say we do get resolution of the fiscal cliff issue before the end of the year. isn't that going to probably give a bit of a fill to markets all around? >> should be a bullish or supportive development, but i think it will probably rans late more into the u.s. indices. i think we've seen quite a bit of the movement already. there was a comment the other day about relative under performance on the s&p and dow. s&p 4% or 5% relative to where...
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will the looming fiscal cliff cast a cloud or not? a new report from pricewaterhouse cooper. >>> recap of the headline, timothy geithner draws a line in the sand. tells cnbc the white house is prepared to go over the fiscal cliff if p republicans don't give in on higher taxes on the wealthy. no change seen at the ecb. draghi expected to hold off on rates and bond purchases. central bank may cut its forecasts for 2013. european stocks in the green in early trade. cheering the new aerospace ownership structure. >> yesterday dow with triple digit gains, nasdaq negative move. rate now about 24 1/2 points above fair value for the dow. s&p 500 four points above fair value. and we're, what, two and a quarter points above fair value for the s&p 500. ftse 100 up third of a percent. xetra dax up a 52 week high at the moment. 87 points higher. and the cac 40 up 0.6%. it's worth pointing out nearly 26% is the gains this year for the german market. we did tease you with the bonds. spanish 5.1%, slightly lower today. didn't quite raise the maximum
will the looming fiscal cliff cast a cloud or not? a new report from pricewaterhouse cooper. >>> recap of the headline, timothy geithner draws a line in the sand. tells cnbc the white house is prepared to go over the fiscal cliff if p republicans don't give in on higher taxes on the wealthy. no change seen at the ecb. draghi expected to hold off on rates and bond purchases. central bank may cut its forecasts for 2013. european stocks in the green in early trade. cheering the new...
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still to come, democrats and republicans continue their fight for the upper hand on the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner's facing something of a revolt within gop's ranks over his budget plan. we'll have the latest from washington when we come back. >>> talks between the white house and republicans over the fiscal cliff have ran to something of a holt. john boehner dealing with division in the gop's ranks to his bung budget plan. another shanghai surprise. china's mainland market surge nearly 3%. more austerity. plus, austerity measures are hitting european consumers. retail sales in october fall much more than expected. september also revised sharply to the downside. >>> it was a flat day really for european stocks, slightly negative for u.s. stocks yesterday. we are a little bit higher. the dow is currently some 43 points above fair value. the nasdaq is around four points above fair value. the s&p 500 at the moment is around about four points above fair value. european stocks are up half a percent earlier. we have come off those highs. eurozone pmis a little bit better than
still to come, democrats and republicans continue their fight for the upper hand on the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner's facing something of a revolt within gop's ranks over his budget plan. we'll have the latest from washington when we come back. >>> talks between the white house and republicans over the fiscal cliff have ran to something of a holt. john boehner dealing with division in the gop's ranks to his bung budget plan. another shanghai surprise. china's mainland...
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economy in the coming year could be impacted by what happens with the fiscal cliff, but i think some sort of arrangement will be made sooner rather than later. you're not going to feel the full impact of the fiscal cliff. what we're likely to see out of the u.s. is modest economic growth, maybe not as strong as some of the bulls had hoped for. >> but also not as weak as to derail its current path? >> yeah. >> now, i wanted to talk briefly about 2013. when it comes to equity outlook, what sectors do you like? any particular names that you would like? >> there's a handful of areas that we're focusing towards and a handful of areas that we're focusing away from. and if i start with sort of where we've got caution, i suppose we're cautious to sectors tightly linked to the government or linked to regulators. the governments have no money, therefore, cannot afford to pay them too generously. with respect to regulators, regulators are fighting for credibility. so more likely to err on the side of caution. in terms of area where we're more positive, we're more positive on intellectually prop
economy in the coming year could be impacted by what happens with the fiscal cliff, but i think some sort of arrangement will be made sooner rather than later. you're not going to feel the full impact of the fiscal cliff. what we're likely to see out of the u.s. is modest economic growth, maybe not as strong as some of the bulls had hoped for. >> but also not as weak as to derail its current path? >> yeah. >> now, i wanted to talk briefly about 2013. when it comes to equity...
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b, because we have the fiscal cliff or fiscal gentle slope or whatever it turns out to be to negotiate and c, because we haven't found our legs in the u.s. and we clearly have some global headwinds coming in 2013. however, the thing about this qe in the u.s., unlike previous ones where they could see big economic problems, let's comfort the market with a really big number, this time we're going to do it month by month. solo the annual figures look very big, they're going to halt qe as long as it looks like there's inflation. >> which means there might not be much market reaction as investors realize that. >>> find out what travelers are still flocking to the shores and how much of that money contributes to eugdp. be back in a few minutes. can i ? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on grou at fedex office. >>> these are the headlines from around the globe, bank s
b, because we have the fiscal cliff or fiscal gentle slope or whatever it turns out to be to negotiate and c, because we haven't found our legs in the u.s. and we clearly have some global headwinds coming in 2013. however, the thing about this qe in the u.s., unlike previous ones where they could see big economic problems, let's comfort the market with a really big number, this time we're going to do it month by month. solo the annual figures look very big, they're going to halt qe as long as...
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cliff later. >> i want to jump on to the next topic chlgt this has been a big one. robert, i start with you, history in the making with the latest poll showing a reversal in attitudes toward marriage equality. 37% thought same-sex marriage should be legal in 2004, now 53% are in support. is the republican party going to evolve with public sentiment on this issue, at least on the public front? perception being reality, the republican party is perceived to be behind the times on this issue. >> thomas, the short answer is i don't know. the long answer is there's two conversations going on within the republican party. do the evangelical wing of the party continue to dominate and they have since 1964 or is the libertarian wing of the party, something i'm more familiar with going to control the party. when you look at the libertarian wing of the party, they are about less government. we could care a less what you do in the privacy of your bedroom and who you fall in love with. it's more about limited government. that's the conversation. if you have that conversation with
cliff later. >> i want to jump on to the next topic chlgt this has been a big one. robert, i start with you, history in the making with the latest poll showing a reversal in attitudes toward marriage equality. 37% thought same-sex marriage should be legal in 2004, now 53% are in support. is the republican party going to evolve with public sentiment on this issue, at least on the public front? perception being reality, the republican party is perceived to be behind the times on this issue....
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when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> joining me now, white house correspondent for the hill and congressional correspondent ed o'keith. hi, guys, good to see you both. >> good morning. >> you heard john boehner. we'll start with you. meanwhile the white house say republicans are the ones to blame for dragging their feet. at least publicly, seems we're walking on a treadmill, getting nowhere. anything bigger churning behind the scenes? >> we certainly hope so. the fact two sides do toin to talk, even if we don't necessarily hear about every detail is encouraging. it does appear republicans are getting close to the idea of raising -- sorry, of cutting taxes for middle income americans and maybe sorting out higher incomes a little later. certainly things aren't necessarily going the republicans way. i think we've seen polling this week that suggests congressional republicans would be held to account if, in fact, the country does go over the cliff. but friday sort of signaled, as boehner said, the
when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> joining me now, white house correspondent for the hill and congressional correspondent ed o'keith. hi, guys, good to see you both. >> good morning. >> you heard john boehner. we'll start with you. meanwhile the white house say republicans are the ones to blame for dragging their feet. at least publicly, seems we're walking on a treadmill, getting...
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. >>> the effort to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff is now a two-man operation. president obama and speaker boehner. thank you. nobody else will be in the room. with 24 days before a year-end deadline, "the new york times" says boehner made the request to clear the negotiation room going forward, leaving it up to himself and the president to reach a deal to avoid automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and while the two men may be negotiating privately, yesterday the president took his mess dwrooj the public, visiting a local virginia family as a part of his social media campaign. while sitting around the kitchen table, he told the family he felt optimistic. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is this is a solvable problem. the senate has already passed a bill that would make sure the middle class taxes do not go up next year by a single dime. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%, but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done
. >>> the effort to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff is now a two-man operation. president obama and speaker boehner. thank you. nobody else will be in the room. with 24 days before a year-end deadline, "the new york times" says boehner made the request to clear the negotiation room going forward, leaving it up to himself and the president to reach a deal to avoid automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and while the two men may be negotiating privately, yesterday the...
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over the fiscal cliff if he doesn't get the tax increases over the wealthy. but will republicans agree to a broader deal? we have that conversation just ahead. when we come back right here, we're going to huddle around the water cooler. we have to get some space. let's put them in another room. allen simpson resorts to dancing "gangnam style" to make people interested about the debt. >> that's not pretty. >> we'll be right back. >>> i'm over. i'm done. >> let's go to the control room. >> we hear it's a strong -- >> what's your nickname? >> i know you know korean pop phenom and his song is one of your favorites. >> you should see my brother do this. >> you're not alone. it's youtube's most watched video. it even rubbed off on the debate over the national debt, specifically on 81-year-old senator allen simpson. >> stop instagramming your breakfast and getting on youtube until you can see "gangnam style." ♪ and start using those precious social media skills and go out and sign people up on this baby, three people a week. let it grow. take part or get taken apa
over the fiscal cliff if he doesn't get the tax increases over the wealthy. but will republicans agree to a broader deal? we have that conversation just ahead. when we come back right here, we're going to huddle around the water cooler. we have to get some space. let's put them in another room. allen simpson resorts to dancing "gangnam style" to make people interested about the debt. >> that's not pretty. >> we'll be right back. >>> i'm over. i'm done. >>...
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john boehner now facing backlash from his own party over the fiscal cliff proposal that he made with some saying it doesn't go far enough to fix the deficit. we'll break down what this means for negotiations ahead with our morning joe panel. but up next -- you never know who you'll see on a new york city subway. and for one kindly old lady, she literally did not know who she was seeing and sitting next to. we'll play her full conversation with jay-z when "way too early" comes right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and regis
john boehner now facing backlash from his own party over the fiscal cliff proposal that he made with some saying it doesn't go far enough to fix the deficit. we'll break down what this means for negotiations ahead with our morning joe panel. but up next -- you never know who you'll see on a new york city subway. and for one kindly old lady, she literally did not know who she was seeing and sitting next to. we'll play her full conversation with jay-z when "way too early" comes right...
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i think the odds are north of 50% of some sort of deal would be reached to avoid the fiscal cliff and i know it's hard to read the tea leaves because in the meantime you have these offers that are not serious. it's like fiscal cliff bungee jumping. i believe the odds are good that there'll be some sort of deal made. >> let's get into the longer-term deal which i think almost everyone agrees, entitlement reform and tax reform is going to take place in 2013 and maybe 14. it's a long process but just in the short term, can the republicans, can enough republicans while a win say we don't like it but we will have to go along for now whether it's 39.6% rate in comeback with the promise next year of trying to lower it and broaden the base? >> i would much prefer we do the kind of reform that i laid out in a bill a few weeks ago, not inking this bill would become law but this bill would show a path forward with $4.5 trillion in savings. i think that, in the event that the house feels that when they see that the senate is obviously controlled by the democratic party and the democratic presiden
i think the odds are north of 50% of some sort of deal would be reached to avoid the fiscal cliff and i know it's hard to read the tea leaves because in the meantime you have these offers that are not serious. it's like fiscal cliff bungee jumping. i believe the odds are good that there'll be some sort of deal made. >> let's get into the longer-term deal which i think almost everyone agrees, entitlement reform and tax reform is going to take place in 2013 and maybe 14. it's a long process...
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to the year end that we have a major deal which we must have on the fiscal cliff that we also include the farm bill. because with the farm bill we save $23 billion over what we've been spending the last few years. so let's get to work and get this done. thank you, madam president. i yield the floor. i ask unanimous consent that the following members of senator baucus' staff be granted floor privileges during the consideration of h.r. 6156. that would be lisa pearlman, rebecca nolan, owen hockey and dan rusk. the presiding officer: without objection. ms. klobuchar: i yield the floor and i note the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: the presiding officer: the senator from rhode island. mr. reed: i ask that the quorum call be dispensed with. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. reed: i ask unanimous consent a dealee to the committee on banking, housing and urban affairs, katharine topping be granted floor privileges for the remainder of this session. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. reed: thank you. we all recogniz
to the year end that we have a major deal which we must have on the fiscal cliff that we also include the farm bill. because with the farm bill we save $23 billion over what we've been spending the last few years. so let's get to work and get this done. thank you, madam president. i yield the floor. i ask unanimous consent that the following members of senator baucus' staff be granted floor privileges during the consideration of h.r. 6156. that would be lisa pearlman, rebecca nolan, owen hockey...
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that fiscal cliff if the folks in washington can get their act together? >> well i come from a part of south carolina which has been economically challenged for quite a long time and remains so. certain parts of south color alina have developed pretty strongly about the but the part that i come from both the aqua cultural manufacturing has a high foreclosure rate and people are having a hard time there and i visited there a few times as chairman. so part of the reason that we are engaging in these policies is to try and create a stronger economy, more jobs so folks across the country including places like the one where i grew up will have more opportunity to have a better lifestyle. so it's a jim import and i think it's very important that we not just look at the numbers. we need to look at the unemployment rate and say every tenth means many many people are represented there so it's very important to try to keep in mind the reality of unemployment to foreclosure of weak wage growth etc. so we always try to do that. and i want to, it's always a delicate ba
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>> dylan, thank you. >>> we are 23 days away from the miss fiscal cliff deadline. can congress and the white house reach a deal? david gregory is moderator of "meet the press." good morning. >> willie, good morning. >> we've heard a lot of tough talk, pes sichl surrousimism su negotiations. you spent time on capitol hill and came away optimistic. why? >> what's changed from the last debacle speaker boehner has more room within his own ranks. the republicans have done away with the feeling they have to oppose the president because the election is coming and they want to deny him a big victory. there's more room to let the taxes go up if he can get a bigger return on cutting medicare. that's what conservatives want, they come out publicly on "morning joe" saying that we should do that to get a bigger deal, that's part of what's going into the negotiations. the question is whether the president is willing to give up on that. lot of liberals don't want to give too much in the way of medicare cuts. >> one of speaker boehner's guiding principles, being for republicans an
>> dylan, thank you. >>> we are 23 days away from the miss fiscal cliff deadline. can congress and the white house reach a deal? david gregory is moderator of "meet the press." good morning. >> willie, good morning. >> we've heard a lot of tough talk, pes sichl surrousimism su negotiations. you spent time on capitol hill and came away optimistic. why? >> what's changed from the last debacle speaker boehner has more room within his own ranks. the...
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and the fiscal cliff. james cheeks says he is counting on congress to prevent his taxes from going up. >> scary. you know, it's scary. where is that money going to come from, you know, how am i going to pay that extra tax hike. >> reporter: one booth over, ted and gus say they don't think congress can avoid the cliff. >> i hope so, but i don't see it yet. >> if we're going to have standoffs, have that do nothing congress, it is going to be awfully toug to get anything done. >> reporter: potential effects of the fiscal cliff in rock island, illinois aren't necessarily any better or worse than in other cities around the country. the bottom line is if congress fails to act, repercussions will be felt across the country. wolf? >> ted rowlands in rock island, illinois. >>> imagine being able to use your ipad, cell phone in the air whenever you want. up next, we have details on a new government effort under way now to keep you plugged in all the time, including on takeoff and landing, while flying. stand by. ♪
and the fiscal cliff. james cheeks says he is counting on congress to prevent his taxes from going up. >> scary. you know, it's scary. where is that money going to come from, you know, how am i going to pay that extra tax hike. >> reporter: one booth over, ted and gus say they don't think congress can avoid the cliff. >> i hope so, but i don't see it yet. >> if we're going to have standoffs, have that do nothing congress, it is going to be awfully toug to get anything...
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jane harman, thanks so much for coming in. the jersey shore about to meet the fiscal cliff. grim news for governor christie as he visits washington. >>> plus the controversial place to store your text messages. this holiday, share everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. sharable data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. get a droid razr m by motorola for $49.99. bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. without freshly-made pasta. you could also cut corners by making it without 100% real cheddar cheese. but then...it wouldn't be stouffer's mac & cheese. just one of over 70 satisfying recipes for one from stouff
jane harman, thanks so much for coming in. the jersey shore about to meet the fiscal cliff. grim news for governor christie as he visits washington. >>> plus the controversial place to store your text messages. this holiday, share everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. sharable data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. get a droid razr m by motorola for $49.99. bp has paid overthe...
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they're working very hard to avoid the fiscal cliff. thanks so much for coming in. for so long, republicans wanted to extend the bush tax cuts forever, now for 98% of the american people, the democrats are saying, we're ready. we've given up, we'll let you have those bush tax cuts for as long as possible. let's just resolve that, we'll move on to some of the tougher issues later. let's make sure that 98% of the american families have these lower tax rates into next year. why not give that? >> the debate over those top two pshsz, is really a strong man debate. what we need is tax reform in america. we need a simpler less complicated tax code. >> i agree with you. we need a tax reform. why not resolve this one issue, make sure taxes don't increase for 98% of the americans, 100% of americans for their first $250,000 a year. let them have that, and then move on to tax reform and some of the other issues. >> i think it's important not to confuse a quick fix with a real fix. we could increase the top 2% their tax rates to 100% and it would cover 91 days worth of spending.
they're working very hard to avoid the fiscal cliff. thanks so much for coming in. for so long, republicans wanted to extend the bush tax cuts forever, now for 98% of the american people, the democrats are saying, we're ready. we've given up, we'll let you have those bush tax cuts for as long as possible. let's just resolve that, we'll move on to some of the tougher issues later. let's make sure that 98% of the american families have these lower tax rates into next year. why not give that?...
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the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> let's get more with the former treasury secretary during the clinton administration robert rubin joining us now. mr. secretary, thanks very much for coming in. >> happy to be here, wolf. >> where are the white house proposals for spending cuts? i know they want to spend a lot of time in terms of raising tax revenues but why not come up with a specific plan for what the republicans say they now need spending cuts. >> basically the president has laid out where he wants to be on spending. we have to have significantly greater revenues and if you're going to avoid middle income tax increases in one fashion or another, most has to come from raising rates on the top two brackets and that's what president obama proposed. in terms of the spending side, they enacted a trillion and a half of reductions and what's called discretionary part of the budget. he has proposed reductions in entitlements as you know and the budget that he's put out. and then there's substantial savings on interest on
the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> let's get more with the former treasury secretary during the clinton administration robert rubin joining us now. mr. secretary, thanks very much for coming in. >> happy to be here, wolf. >> where are the white house proposals for spending cuts? i know they want to spend a lot of time in terms of raising tax revenues but why not come up with a specific plan for what the...
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but there is this, if no deal is struck, and the fiscal cliff comes, then $600 billion in automatic tax increases and spending cuts will kick in. that could affect a lot of programs in this room. that, wolf, is going to lead a lot of voters, democrat and republican, unhappy. >> tom foreman. dramatic way of explaining what's going on. love that virtual studio he's got over there. thank you. >>> new clues potentially uncovered in a deadly decades old mystery haunting a reform school. you'll find out what researchers think they have found. that's next. i put away money. i was 21, so i said, "hmm, i want to retire at 55." and before you know it, i'm 58 years old. time went by very fast. it goes by too, too fast. ♪ but i would do it again in a heartbeat. [ laughs ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] with a select terrain dial that adjusts the jeep grand cherokee's performance for specific weather and road conditions... ♪ ...even heavy snowstorms... won't keep you from getting to work. our apologies. ♪ >>> researchers may have unkfred shocking new evidence of a mass grave at a now closed florid
but there is this, if no deal is struck, and the fiscal cliff comes, then $600 billion in automatic tax increases and spending cuts will kick in. that could affect a lot of programs in this room. that, wolf, is going to lead a lot of voters, democrat and republican, unhappy. >> tom foreman. dramatic way of explaining what's going on. love that virtual studio he's got over there. thank you. >>> new clues potentially uncovered in a deadly decades old mystery haunting a reform...
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but you can see the pieces coming together, as you laid out, on the fiscal cliff. some increase in marginal tax rates coupled with some kind of cutting back on tax expenditures. the real concern is shifting or will shift from the fiscal cliff to the debt limit. it's not at all clear that the republicans will agree to including a debt limit increase in that kind of package. if they don't, we may get past december 31st only to find ourselves with a big problem in february or march. >> the obama administration, the white house has been very clear, they will not sign anything, even to get past december 31st. that doesn't include a debt ceiling of some sort. so do you think they can hold firm on that if republicans offer them a package that doesn't include the debt ceiling? >> this is where i think the tension is now arising, which is even if you have some agreement over the tax rates which will jam the republicans a bit, can you jam them on the debt limit also. i think the concern will be an administration overstepping or overreaching and trying to jam a debt limit inc
but you can see the pieces coming together, as you laid out, on the fiscal cliff. some increase in marginal tax rates coupled with some kind of cutting back on tax expenditures. the real concern is shifting or will shift from the fiscal cliff to the debt limit. it's not at all clear that the republicans will agree to including a debt limit increase in that kind of package. if they don't, we may get past december 31st only to find ourselves with a big problem in february or march. >> the...
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we've got more work to do. 24 days until our economy falls off the tax and fiscal cliff. just where do we stand on a deal coming out of washington, d.c.? cnbc correspondent joins us with all the details. >> reporter: as you know the white house's strategy since the election has been to break republican resistance on two issues. one is tax rates and one is an increase in the debt limit. he hasn't succeeded or budged off that attempt so far which is why john boehner came out in a news conference today and slammed the white house for not being willing to compromise. >> four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counter offer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk or economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> a few hours later you had a slight indication of flexibility from the administration. vice president joe biden was out. he reiterated those two nonnegotiable demands on the part of the administratio
we've got more work to do. 24 days until our economy falls off the tax and fiscal cliff. just where do we stand on a deal coming out of washington, d.c.? cnbc correspondent joins us with all the details. >> reporter: as you know the white house's strategy since the election has been to break republican resistance on two issues. one is tax rates and one is an increase in the debt limit. he hasn't succeeded or budged off that attempt so far which is why john boehner came out in a news...
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one critical republic who criticized house speaker john boehner over own party fiscal cliff honor says is he resigning. an important man, too. south carolina senator jim demint a key force behind the tea party movement. the founder of the tea party caucus in the senate and who predicted that the healthcare debate would be president obama's water loo. remember that? earlier this week he argued that speaker boehner's proposal tax hikes would destroy jobs. but senator demind says his resignation has nothing to do with the fiscal cliff. it's because he has accepted a job as president of the conservative think tank the heritage foundation. jim demint served three terms as a u.s. congressman from south carolina before voters first elected him to the senate in 2004. mike emanuel is on capitol hill tonight. it's a big resignation,. >> jim demint says is he leaving the senate, shep he is not leaving the fight. in fact, demint might be able to spend more time on issues he is most passionate about at the heritage foundation. he explained his thinking on "special report" a short time ago. >> i thi
one critical republic who criticized house speaker john boehner over own party fiscal cliff honor says is he resigning. an important man, too. south carolina senator jim demint a key force behind the tea party movement. the founder of the tea party caucus in the senate and who predicted that the healthcare debate would be president obama's water loo. remember that? earlier this week he argued that speaker boehner's proposal tax hikes would destroy jobs. but senator demind says his resignation...
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there is word of possible progress in the fiscal cliff standoff. officials say president obama and the house speaker john boehner talked by phone tonight after each put new offers on the table. we are live in d.c. with the late breaking details on that. plus, we're getting more new reports from portland, oregon where there has been a series of shootings at the clackman's center mall. we can now report that multiple witnesses are saying to multiple television stations that a gunman had a rifle that more than 60 shots were fired and this is new. he was trussed in camo and wearing a mask and to the best of our knowledge, he is still in there somewhere. continuing breaking news coverage after this. ory keeps c. ory keeps c. so i'm not listening... to anyone but myself. i know better nutrition when i see it: great grains. great grains cereal starts whole and stays whole. see the seam? more processed flakes look nothing like naturalrains. you can't argue with nutrition you can see. great grains. search great grains and see for yourself. for multi grain f
there is word of possible progress in the fiscal cliff standoff. officials say president obama and the house speaker john boehner talked by phone tonight after each put new offers on the table. we are live in d.c. with the late breaking details on that. plus, we're getting more new reports from portland, oregon where there has been a series of shootings at the clackman's center mall. we can now report that multiple witnesses are saying to multiple television stations that a gunman had a rifle...
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when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another week. >>reporter: he calls officials saying they are ready to go over the trip. >>shepard: democrats insist that revenue, revenue, revenue is the key. >>guest: president obama campaigned on it and obviously won and democrats insist upper income americans should pay higher taxes but there could be room to negotiate but their point is they don't want to talk about other aspects of a deal until the g.o.p. gives in on their demand for more tax money. >> what is lacking are the revenues. we cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. what reduces the deficit are jobs. job creation. after spending cuts, and medicare saving, and next is the revenue. >>reporter: leader pelosi spent time at the white house today meeting with president obama on what we are told are a number of issues. >>shepard: thank you, mike, from washington, dc. we know that business collects information from us when we go to our website our mobile apps. usually it is legal. there is a new law that requires companies to notif
when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another week. >>reporter: he calls officials saying they are ready to go over the trip. >>shepard: democrats insist that revenue, revenue, revenue is the key. >>guest: president obama campaigned on it and obviously won and democrats insist upper income americans should pay higher taxes but there could be room to negotiate but their point is they don't want to talk about other aspects...
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and the real work to avoid the fiscal cliff is being done behind doors and we can hope. the latest talks from lawmakers seem to show that one side is coming out ahead. not surprisingly it is the side that won the presidential election. we will be right back. >>> quarter past the hour. mohamed morsi is still speaking. he says he feels sorry for those killed on both sides in the violence around the palace. this from the live speech which is on going. the hope was certainly of western observers that this man who has made himself a dictator would back down and submit to the will of the people. at least those not of the muslim brotherhood. that has not happened. he said we must trans send our differences. the will of the people cannot be suppressed by angry crowds. the will of the people must not be suppressed by anger. he says he prays that god will guide them through it. and he prays that god will safeguard the repercussions of the storm. he says the egyptian people are aware of your value. i stated clearly and openly i cannot tolerate that any person perpetrate any killing
and the real work to avoid the fiscal cliff is being done behind doors and we can hope. the latest talks from lawmakers seem to show that one side is coming out ahead. not surprisingly it is the side that won the presidential election. we will be right back. >>> quarter past the hour. mohamed morsi is still speaking. he says he feels sorry for those killed on both sides in the violence around the palace. this from the live speech which is on going. the hope was certainly of western...
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. >>> and is this what the fiscal cliff deal has come to? why 81-year-old former senator alan simpson is going gangnam style to get everyone's attention on debt. >> it has officially jumped the shark. >>> alan st. pierre is the executive director for the national,or for the reform of marijuana laws. oregon senator jeff merkley, heidi ewing, and rachel grady will be joining us. steve satich, ohio congressman, steve latourette, and ambassador nick burns are our guests this morning. it's thursday, december 6th, and "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome, everybody. our starting point this morning, some major developments to tell you about in egypt, after angry protests against political moves by the president, mohamed morsi, have turned deadly. tanks, armored personnel vehicles, all stationed outside the presidential analysis cairo. not only are they guarding the palace, they're also keeping apart supporters and opponents of morsi. hundreds of his islamist supporters already taking to the streets in cairo this morning. opponents are gat
. >>> and is this what the fiscal cliff deal has come to? why 81-year-old former senator alan simpson is going gangnam style to get everyone's attention on debt. >> it has officially jumped the shark. >>> alan st. pierre is the executive director for the national,or for the reform of marijuana laws. oregon senator jeff merkley, heidi ewing, and rachel grady will be joining us. steve satich, ohio congressman, steve latourette, and ambassador nick burns are our guests this...
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. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with steve israel. jeff sessions, sandy levin, rahm emanuel and businessman javier paolomarez, ed burns, frankie monday easy, and chuck leavell. "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. "starting point" this morning, angry, united. bracing for protests in michigan as the state is poised to become the most unionized right to work state. as many as 10,000 unionized workers expected at the state capitol to voice their disapproval of the measure. some of them teachers, two detroit area school districts shut down for the day as hundreds of teachers plan to join the protest. president obama brought it up during a
. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with...
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coming up next. >>> president obama, john boehner, if they reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, maybe it has nothing to do with politics. according to "snl," the president feels really, really bad for the speaker. a clip of that, pretty funny. straight ahead. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh what a relief it is! ♪ [ male announcer ] to learn more about the cold truth and save $1 visit alka-seltzer on facebook. and now -- i got a great new way to get deals. it's called bankamerideals, from bank of america. i choose the cash back deals in my mobile or online banking. i just use my bank of america debit or credit car
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are solid, despite the fiscal cliff concerns coming out of washington. she says stocks could get hit in the early part of the area if we go over the fiscal cliff, but the fundamentals of the economy are still good. >>> all right. apple stock dropped more than 6% yesterday. shares were down about half a percent in pre-market trading this morning. no concrete news pushing them down, but today there's another hearing in the patent case with samsung in california. and a tech research report generatored a lot of buzz that apple's tablet competitors could eat into its market share. >> interesting. >> thanks, christine. >>> well, the good news is, let's do the fiscal cliff and the good news. and it's not very much. but at least the two sides are talking, by phone. not face to face. house speaker john boehner and the president are hoping to break the fiscal cliff ice. now we're just mixing metaphors, left and right. speaking on the phone, 26 days left, of course, until we tumble over the cliff or slide down the slope or fall off the precipice or however you want
are solid, despite the fiscal cliff concerns coming out of washington. she says stocks could get hit in the early part of the area if we go over the fiscal cliff, but the fundamentals of the economy are still good. >>> all right. apple stock dropped more than 6% yesterday. shares were down about half a percent in pre-market trading this morning. no concrete news pushing them down, but today there's another hearing in the patent case with samsung in california. and a tech research...
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step up in the fiscal cliff negotiations. the democratic leadership is preparing to respond. we will bring you comments from senators harry reid and dick durbin. that is live, and that is coming up. >>> the "cnbc realtime exchange market snapshot" is brought to you by interactive brokers. >>> it is time for another capital markets op-ed. buybacks. >> you guys covered this yesterday at great length. i hoped to look at some of the newspapers today, "the wall street journal" was the only newspaper somewhat critical about this. look, warren buffett will be buying back stocks. he was never going to buy back stock or split the stock. he was never going to put the stock in the s&p 500. if this is not hypocritical to the maximum level -- no, no, no. he has changed. >> oh, a long time ago. >> a long time ago. never believed in buybacks. never would split a stock into the "b" shares and would never go into the s&p 500. you don't want closet indexes owning the name. that's some of the hypocrisy. but given the fact that he took out one o
step up in the fiscal cliff negotiations. the democratic leadership is preparing to respond. we will bring you comments from senators harry reid and dick durbin. that is live, and that is coming up. >>> the "cnbc realtime exchange market snapshot" is brought to you by interactive brokers. >>> it is time for another capital markets op-ed. buybacks. >> you guys covered this yesterday at great length. i hoped to look at some of the newspapers today, "the wall...
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that has come up. in part because of the fiscal cliff concerns. it was 19% back in march. a high of 36%. so we're halfway between the low and the high pretty much. this is a 13-month high for the probability of recession. now we want to show you what people are saying about the fiscal cliff, allowing the economy to go over the cliff would be extremely reckless, says donnelly. they're going out to try to help the unemployment rate. wall street doesn't believe it's going to happen. they do believe it will help lower mortgage rates and the unemployment rate and not a lot of help expected for the stock market. melissa? >> steve, thanks for that. that's interesting stuff there. >> nothing like getting your blood pressure up. liesman testing you live on tv. >> what do you think? wrong, wrong. brought back bad memories, huh, carl? 2013 housing market outlook this morning, according to the report there will be an increase in new residential construction activity, and also recovery in home repair and remodel spending next year. robert, some of the stats are staggering. it's not jus
that has come up. in part because of the fiscal cliff concerns. it was 19% back in march. a high of 36%. so we're halfway between the low and the high pretty much. this is a 13-month high for the probability of recession. now we want to show you what people are saying about the fiscal cliff, allowing the economy to go over the cliff would be extremely reckless, says donnelly. they're going out to try to help the unemployment rate. wall street doesn't believe it's going to happen. they do...
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joe and becky are coming right back after the break. >>> still to come, look past the fiscal cliff. what caterpillar's ceo told the president and the company's plans for 2013. can the economy dig its way out of this slow growth rut? find out at 7:30 this morning right here on "squawk box." americans believe they should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. where they want. doing what they want. ameriprise. the strength of a leader in retirement planning. the heart of 10,000 advisors working with you one-to-one. together for your future. ♪ >>> welcome back to "squawk box." we're just about an hour away from the first time jobless claims. planned job cuts rose for the third straight month in november according to the latest challenger report that number rose to more than 57,000 last month up 34% from november of 2011. the year-to-date total is still 13% below where it was a year ago. also the european central
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fiscal cliff or the fiscal abyss? >> for both. >> for both. >> so that a down payment -- a compromise down payment on approximately $4 trillion. i think when you pull it apart, you have about a trillion dollars in discretionary spending that has mostly been agreed upon and you have taxes and the entitlements, the mandatory. >> the entitlements are the sticking point. whoa. did you see that? you think that's funny? >> set that up for you. >> you think that's funny, mac? you do this? look at this. this is booby trapped, man. it won't stay up. which can really be a problem. you can laugh at that. it's okay. nobody's watching. it's 6:00 a.m. that got you going. >> when you look through, i guess the devil is in the details in terms of what you're looking at in spending, cuts, entitlement cuts and with the tax increases, and you're right, both sides have put a plan on the table. they're pretty far apart, but at least now you know there's some framework for how you get to the middle. what do you think, 1.2 trillion in tax in
fiscal cliff or the fiscal abyss? >> for both. >> for both. >> so that a down payment -- a compromise down payment on approximately $4 trillion. i think when you pull it apart, you have about a trillion dollars in discretionary spending that has mostly been agreed upon and you have taxes and the entitlements, the mandatory. >> the entitlements are the sticking point. whoa. did you see that? you think that's funny? >> set that up for you. >> you think that's...
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. >> but if the end of the world is coming, we could stop talking about the fiscal cliff. that might be a relief. >> that would be the big -- >> right. it would happen before the -- >> yeah. >> right. that's first. >> okay. >>> all right. thank you. i love our weather guys. >> they're chatty. can play ball. >> a bunch that we've been breaking in. >> you throw the ball, they throw it back. >> when you go to the local cutins, no one says anything. they've got to boom, boom. >>> opec leaders meeting in vienna today. steve sedgwick -- steve sedgwick with more. steve? >> reporter: hey, just head the prompt. it's me in vienna. it does feel like winter, minus three here. but i can tell you that opec should be happy. it is producing nearly 31 million barrels a day. it's got brent over $108 a barrel. brent will be over $110 a barrel on average for 2012. for the first time ever. olympic making a trillion dollars in -- opec is making a trill dollars trillion dollars in oil. they're worry good oversupply going into 2013. they are concerned that the call on their oil is going to be les
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. >> reporter: telling agencies to watch for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff and warped the business exectives the economy could take another hit if the republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, take us to brink of default again, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their own meeting with small business owners denying they're trying to punt. >> i'll be here and available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious abouting the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with the g.o.p. leaders in weeks. not offered any counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> a balanced approach the president has been asking for. now we need response from the white house. >> reporter: they continue to insist the impediment to the deal is boehner's tax revenue is not
. >> reporter: telling agencies to watch for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff and warped the business exectives the economy could take another hit if the republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, take us to...
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obama's plea for recovery funds comes as he negotiates with the republicans to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff it's a set of spending rises and tax cuts that are set to take effect on the first of january and could be ruinous to the economy but does the average american fear the looming june artie's new yorker resident try to find out. america is about to go over the fiscal cliff are you worried what should we do about it this week let's talk about that do you know the fiscal cliff. do you think a lot of americans do you know so then why is the media talking about it incessantly well so go there i guess i'm not as informed as i should be but i just kind of figure it might work out do you think most people feel that way you know you think most people are worried i think they are and i think that if i ignore it all go away do you think calling it something like the fiscal cliff minimizes it yes or no i definitely agree that it's a complex problem i don't think it simplifies it though i think it adds an element of panic or fear looming. doom and the media loves that yeah i do think there's
obama's plea for recovery funds comes as he negotiates with the republicans to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff it's a set of spending rises and tax cuts that are set to take effect on the first of january and could be ruinous to the economy but does the average american fear the looming june artie's new yorker resident try to find out. america is about to go over the fiscal cliff are you worried what should we do about it this week let's talk about that do you know the fiscal cliff. do you...